Around The World In A Gypsy Moth – 1928

It has been so interesting to read and follow the around the world journey of Amelia Rose Earhart, the namesake of the famous aviatrix Amelia Earhart whose 1938 voyage ended when she and her co-pilot went missing. Amelia Rose for several years had been the traffic reporter on a local television station here in Denver. She learned to fly with the goal to follow in Amelia Earhart’s path, but to complete the entire trip. Aviation technology has changed but the basic’s remain the same. Well, meet Violette Selfridge de Sibour who went around the world in 1928 with her husband in an open cockpit Gypsy Moth.

Violette de Sibour and Vicomte Jacques de Sibour with Safarai their Gypsi Moth

Violette de Sibour and Vicomte Jacques de Sibour with their Gypsiy Moth airplane named Safari.

Violette Selfridge de Sibour was a woman who demonstrated great courage, fearlessness, enthusiasm and adventure by joining her husband in  a 10,000 mile vagabond journey around the world in a Gypsy Moth. Violette de Sibour chronicled their 1928 journey in the book she wrote, Flying Gypsies, published by G.P. Putnam, The Knickerbocker Press, in 1930. George Putnam was the husband of Ameilia Earhart. The couples had become close friends.

Violette Selfridge was the second daughter of Gordon Selfridge, founder of the Selfridge Department store in London, England. Once Violette described their adventure to  fly around the world to the family, little support was forthcoming. The de Sibours kept their plans and enthusiasm to themselves rather than be discouraged by friends and family.

Violette and Jacque de Sibour obtained the much needed maps from Stanford’s Map Shop in Trafalgar Square to plan their journey. They chopped the maps into bits, pasting together those only which concerned them. Jacque marked the route, together with distances, wind variations and general information obtained from the different air ministries here and abroad.

 

Mediterranean coastline map.

Mediterranean coastline map.

He spent hours with compasses, encyclopedias and naval charts. He studied wind and climates off various countries and discovered that it would be difficult to return the same way they went. They determined they would have to go by steamer across the two big oceans. The Gypsy Moth was disassembled and then re-assembled when they arrived at their coastal destination.

They set their departure date for September 14, 1928 from Stag Lane Aerodrome. Jacque had been at the aerodrome all morning with friends waiting for the silver and cobalt plane to emerge with the freshly painted letters. a hurried goodbye , a swing of the propeller and they were off.

Violette and Jacque allowed only 50 lbs of luggage. Here is what Violette packed:

  • One complete beige sport suit, consisting of skirt sweater and sweater coat.
  • A sleeveless beige summer frock and wide brimmed felt hat.
  • A black lace evening dress and black fringe shawl.
  • Two paris of shoes and one pari of silver slippers.
  • Two complete sets of loungerie and half a dozen pairs of silk stockings.

She decided to fly in trousers since the plane had duel controls. That means a stick that sits right between your knees. And, remember this is an open cockpit plane.

Her husband had his dinner jacket, a pair of soft black patent leather shims, three white silk shirts and of course collars, socks and so forth. His packed clothing weighed two pounds more than hers. They packed clothing and toiletries in three oilskin cases. The third case was for their joint toilet articles.

 

Mountain ridge.

Mountain ridge.

 

Route across syria, Iraq and Arabia.

Route across Syria, Iraq and Arabia.

Rangoon to Bangkok Map.

Rangoon to Bangkok Map.

 

Pictures are from Violette De Sibour’s book Flying Gypsies. Descriptions are also from her book which I found at the Denver Public Library in the Western History and Genealogy Department.

Book Cover - Flying Gypsies

Book Cover – Flying Gypsies

 

 

The thrills, the spills and the dust of Lakeside Speedway

The Tower of Jewels

The Tower of Jewels

 

My good friend just posted a blog about her family’s Sunday night visits to the local racetrack. She is a fantastic writer and her words capture a lot of my memories from Denver’s local racetrack – Lakeside Speedway. Lakeside Amusement Park was built by Adolph Zang a well known historic figure in Denver’s early history. He built Zang Brewery. Later Zang sold the park to a gentleman named Krasner. You can read more about the history at http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15. The park’s current owner is a woman, the only woman owner  of an amusement park in the U.S.

 

Mostly I remember the stock car races on Sunday evening although I vaguely remember watching the midget races at Lakeside. It was 50 years ago, and my memory is kind of fuzzy. I really had no interest in racing when I first started going to the Sunday night fetes. My interest was in spending time with a special “date.” He loved cars and racing and mechanics and fixing things.

 

The track was oval and made of dirt. By 10:00p.m. when the racing was over we were covered with dust. We were horse from screaming for just the right winner and the rush to get home before curfew was on.

 

Here are some pictures of the drivers we watched.

1963 Elmer Sauer (Medium)

1963 Elmer Sauer

1963 Sam Sauer

1963 Sam Sauer

1963 Ron tomsic (Medium)

1963 Ron Tomsic

Family History Thanksgiving Story 2013 – Mayflower Passenger George Soule

From the Pilgrim Hall Museum

Explore this link to share the stories of the pilgrims and the origin of Thanksgiving.

http://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/thanksgiving.htm

Remember our ancestor was George Soule, a servant/teacher for Edward Winslow’s children.

George had been orphaned when his home burned and his parents died. His brother Robert raised him. When he heard of the opportunity to go to the new world, he did so with the Edward Winslow family.

George Soule was a signer of the Mayflower Compact. A document where all of the people agreed to govern as a group.

Read more from the Pilgrim Hall Museum web site.

AT THE FIRST THANKSGIVING:

4 MARRIED WOMEN: Eleanor Billington, Mary Brewster, Elizabeth Hopkins, Susanna White
Winslow.

5 ADOLESCENT GIRLS: Mary Chilton (14), Constance Hopkins (13 or 14), Priscilla Mullins (19),
Elizabeth Tilley (14 or15) and Dorothy, the Carver’s unnamed maidservant, perhaps 18 or 19.

9 ADOLESCENT BOYS: Francis & John Billington, John Cooke, John Crackston, Samuel Fuller
(2d), Giles Hopkins, William Latham, Joseph Rogers, Henry Samson.

13 YOUNG CHILDREN: Bartholomew, Mary & Remember Allerton, Love & Wrestling Brewster,
Humility Cooper, Samuel Eaton, Damaris & Oceanus Hopkins, Desire Minter, Richard More,
Resolved & Peregrine White.

22 MEN: John Alden, Isaac Allerton, John Billington, William Bradford, William Brewster, Peter
Brown, Francis Cooke, Edward Doty, Francis Eaton, [first name unknown] Ely, Samuel Fuller,
Richard Gardiner, John Goodman, Stephen Hopkins, John Howland, Edward Lester, George
Soule, Myles Standish, William Trevor, Richard Warren, Edward Winslow, Gilbert Winslow.

FAMILY GROUPS:
 ALDEN: John
 ALLERTON: Isaac with children Bartholomew, Mary, Remember; the Allerton servant
William Latham
 BILLINGTON: John & Eleanor with sons Francis, John Jr.
 BRADFORD: William
 BREWSTER: William & Mary with sons Love, Wrestling; their ward Richard More
 BROWNE / BROWN: Peter
 CARVER: The Carver ward Desire Minter; the Carver servant John Howland; the Carver
maidservant Dorothy.
 CHILTON: Mary
 COOKE: Francis with son John
 CRACKSTON: John
 EATON: Francis with son Samuel
 ELY: Unknown adult man
 FULLER: Samuel with nephew Samuel 2d
 GARDINER: Richard
 GOODMAN: John
 HOPKINS: Stephen & Elizabeth with Giles, Constance, Damaris, Oceanus; their servants
Edward Doty and Edward Leister.
 MULLINS: Priscilla
 ROGERS: Joseph
 STANDISH: Myles  TILLEY: Elizabeth
 TILLEY: Tilley wards Humility Cooper and Henry Samson
 TREVOR / TREVORE: William
 WARREN: Richard
 WINSLOW: Edward & Susanna with her sons Resolved White & Peregrine White; Winslow
servant George Soule
 WINSLOW: Gilbert
Note: In Of Plymouth Plantation, William Bradford lists the Mayflower passengers and also tells us who died during the
first winter of 1620/1621 and spring of 1621. No other ships arrived in Plymouth until after the “First Thanksgiving”
celebration. The Pilgrims at the “First Thanksgiving” are all the Mayflower survivors.

Edwin Squires – Vicksburg Campaign, February 1863

As described by Arthur Robinson in is Memorandum and Anecdotes of the Civil War 1862 to 1865, on December 28th orders were read for the 33rd Regiment to return to Memphis. Companies of the 33rd Regiment quartered very comfortably just outside the Memphis city limit until February 7, 1863.

“The morning of February 7th, 1863, we were paid four months’ pay, issued five days’ rations, 60 rounds of cartridges and a sheet of canvas 5 feet by 6 feet, with buttons on one edge and stake loops on the other, so that two sheets could be buttoned together, which we called dog tents. These were to be our tents and shelter. Our quartermaster had been around and taken an inventory of our camp. That meant there was something in the wind. That afternoon, on dress parade, there were orders read to be ready to march to the city landing by 6 A.M., leaving our tents and camp stand. This was not approved by some of the boys.They did not like the idea of leaving our comfortable camp for some new regiment to occupy and enjoy, and there were a good many pranks played, such as splitting the forks of the stakes that supported the bunks, burying blank cartridges in the fireplaces, or stuffing the chimneys with old blankets and castoff clothing; any thing that would be likely to give annoyance to the new occupants.

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Dog tent

We were in line promptly at 6 o’clock the morning of the 8th, and were marched to the city landing. There we stacked our arms and lay awaiting our turn for loading on the boats. There were three boats assigned for our brigade. (A brigade consisted of 3 to 6 regiments; a regiment was 10 companies of 100 men, so a brigade could be 3000 to 6000 soldiers.) The 3d Iowa and the 41st Missouri were embarked on the White Cloud, a large boat and the one that first brought our regiment to Memphis. The 14th Illinois was next, on the Queen, a stern wheeler; our regiment, the 33d Wisconsin, on the Natchez, a stern wheeler, and we were started down the river in that order, leaving Memphis at 11 o’clock A.M. The third day, as we neared Young’s Point, the White Cloud was fired into by a masked battery from the east bank. We answered with a volley of musketry, and our boat in the rear was ordered to land at a landing a short distance above, the other two going down the river. Our regiment was landed and marched across the bend about two miles, where we came in sight of the battery, two guns. They had spied us and were off in a gallop. Here they had another embrasure and would have given the boats another shot had we not surprised them. We pursued them four miles. We then marched back to Iuca, twelve miles below where we had landed, and found our boats awaiting us there. We were not molested again in our going down the river, and arrived at Milican’s Bend the 12th, where we were disembarked and went into camp.

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February 13th we awoke in the morning to find our camp flooded with water from the river, everything was drenched, and we were wading out to higher ground, and the boys were singing the nautical song as they marked out. “Mark Twain, Mark above water Twain, nine feet, no bottom.” It was quite amusing to see how cheerful the boys took their wetting. The country is a flat level and protected by a levee, a bank of earth thrown up along the bank of the river. This had washed out or broken in many places, letting the water in.

Grant was concentrating his army here and some had already gone below Grand Gulf, on this side of the river. Troops were moving south every day. We were in sound of the gunboats’ fire on Vicksburg. There was a large lot of army stores here, which we were guarding, unloading from boats every day and wagon trains were loaded and sent down below Vicksburg. There was a deserter came to our camp the 17th and reported that there was a rebel camp up the river about 30 miles, near the mouth of White River, where they had a small steamboat and two barges that they were crossing men to the east side with; that their camp was secreted on a bayou entering the White River, a camp of 500 men, commanded by Colonel Gurley.

We had received orders to be ready to march at 10 o’clock, issued five days’ rations, 40 rounds of cartridges and light camp outfit, two wagons loaded with picks and shovels and were marched up the river twenty miles, where we apparently go into camp, but only until darkness, when our regiment was divided into two troops. Companies K and I were sent up the river to the mouth of White River; the balance of the regiment was marched west in the cypress swamp over a corduroy road. We moved with great caution. I must here state that our picks and shovels were unloaded at the river, where they were put in array as if we were to work on the levee, ostensibly for a blind, to lead the rebels, if any were spying our movements, to think our purpose was to repair the levee.

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Engineers building a “corduroy” road.Wood was put down in swampy areas to make a road.

We were moving with great caution, probably having gone twelve miles, when we came to a halt, and there one company was detached, turning their ponchos wrong side out over their shoulders. They marched on and we heard them halted by the enemy’s picket. The rebel who had come to our camp was dressed in rebel uniform and was sent up, announcing a friend with the countersign. He relieved the picket and told him that they are on the march to cross the river. This ruse was followed up until we relieved all their sentinels and we stationed our pickets and disarmed the rebels. Then we marched in on their camp and took them totally by surprise without firing a gun. We found their guns stacked and took possession of them before we aroused them. The jig was up. We had captured 400 prisoners, with their entire camp outfit and we guarded them in their own camp until daybreak, when we burned everything that would burn–the two scows and steamboat–and marched out to where we had formed our camp and were back in Milican Bend February 20th in our old camp. The Johnnies were sent up the river the next day. They wanted a boat ride, and they got one. They had been ferrying troops across the river to the east side at night and secreted their boat during the daytime. This had been the source of reinforcements to Pemberton for some time.

We remained at Milican Bend guarding the army stores until the 28th of March. That afternoon we were ordered to embark on a boat and with two of the marine boats were sent up the Yazoo River after dark. The fleet ran the blockade that night and the sky was red with shell from our  mortar fleet, and the rebel batteries were pouring their shot into our fleet. Our motive was to blow out the blockade in the Yazoo river while the fleet passed Vicksburg, but it was found impracticable, as the rebels had it covered in range of four of their siege guns and were on the alert, and commenced shelling us before we could reach the blockade. They had spies out all along the river.

We returned to Milican Bend and were in our old camp again. The river was very high and the Yazoo was flooding the whole country on its north bank, which is nearly all cypress swamp. The mortar fleet was firing shell into Vicksburg every night. It made a beautiful sight as the fuse twirled with the revolution of the shell, but they must have created sad havoc in the city,and it made me shudder with horror for the poor people who were within their range. Was is cruel! War is inhuman.”

Edwin Squires – March to Holly Springs, Mississippi, December 1862

At the river, St. Louis, MO

When Company E left Cairo, Illinois for Memphis it was on the  packet White Cloud. This is a picture of the river at St. Louis with all the timberclads, steamships and packets loading and unloading troops and supplies. Most of the port cities on the Mississippi looked like this with movement of soldiers and supplies during the Civil War. In 1849 a fire erupted at the port in St. Louis and most of the ships including the original White Cloud and about 4 blocks of businesses and home were destroyed. Cost of the destruction was $5,000,000.

The second White Cloud was a 345 ton sidewheeler built in McKeesport, Pennsylvania. In 1857 the homeport for the White Cloud was St. Louis. After service in the Civil War the White Cloud was destroyed in an ice squeeze at St. Louis.

Enfield Rifle

The Enfield Rifle

The 33rd Regiment of Wisconsin Infantry Volunteers were fitted with the Enfield Rifle. It was a musket, with ramrod and bayonet. The writings of Arthur Robinson talk about using either the bayonet or the ramrod to cook their bacon or hold their cup of coffee over the fire to cook.

Bell Tent

This is an example of a bell tent. Arthur Robinson describes the men of Company E  “divided into twelve messes of eight men to a tent and paired off in two’s as bunkmates.”

In the words of Arthur Robinson from his Memorandum and Anecdotes of the Civil War  here is what the men of Company E faced after the skirmish at Coldwater and on the march to Holly Springs in 1862. Holly Springs, Mississippi was the camp where Union supplies were stored in Major General Ulysses S. Grants strategic plan to take over Vicksburg.

“On December 2d we were ordered to strike camp and be ready to march by 7 A.M.; were issued two days’ rations and cartridges to fill our cartridge box, 40 rounds, with 20 rounds extra, and at 7 o’clock we were on the road, leading south-east toward Holly Springs, Miss. We marched probably fifteen miles that day and camped that night at Pleasant Valley, a large Baptist school on the Tallahatchie river. We had barely gone into camp when the long roll was beat and we hustled to our guns, when the rebel cavalry came dashing in on us, and run right through our camp, but with no great damage to us, only upsetting a few cans of coffee that had been placed on our fires, “one of Forest’s daredevil raids.” We gave them a parting volley as they passed. We had not stationed our pickets when they made their charge, but we gave them a warm reception. This was the first time we had met with such a surprise, and we were a lot of excited boys for a short time, a feeling that is hard to describe, “something like an ague shake.” We soon got down to business again, preparing our evening meal and eating it with as much relish as if nothing occurred to disturb us out of the ordinary. On the morning of December 3d we were on the march by 4 o’clock for Holly Springs. During the night there had been a dispatch by courier that Forest had captured the place and burned the army stores there, and was tearing up the railroad tracks. We were put through on a forced march and arrived at about 4 P.M., to find the place evacuated. They had plundered the camp and torn up about two miles of railroad between Holly Springs and Grand Junction. They had gone in the direction of Grand Junction. Pap Thomas’ cavalry was in hot pursuit. We camped at Holly Springs and repaired the railroad and garrisoned the place. I was detailed for picket duty that night and nearly froze while on my post. It had turned cold, with rain. Our rations were about exhausted and the track torn up. Forest had burned all the supplies at Holly Springs, and the country had been stripped of everything for miles by both the rebels and our army.

We were put on quarter rations until supplies could be brought from Memphis. The morning of the 4th there was a forage train sent out to procure feed for the mules. Stafford was on the detail from our mess. They were sent to the south of Holly Springs to a large plantation on the Tallahatchie. A negro had reported that the old planter had an abundance of corn and provender secreted, and had described the place as to finding everything, but would not go with the boys for fear of his life. There were 200 men detailed to guard the train, and they soon found everything as the negro had reported and came back to camp with a full load and plenty. Stanford was a good forager and our mess was well supplied with chicken, goose, yellow yams and corn cakes.We had gone into an old, deserted camp, and it was only a few days until our boys were infested with vermin and disease, which took five of our company in a very short time. Rafe Stafford, my bunk mate, was the first. Poor boy, he was taken with dysentary and died within a week after our arrival at Holly Springs. Charles Smith, Nat Goodwin and two of our Norwegian boys were all buried within twenty days. Brother Hiram was very sick and I feared that he would be next, but he pulled through, by my careful nursing. We were barely over with dysentery when the smallpox broke out. Joe Hall, of our company, was the first to come down with it. Very fortunately it did not spread in the regiment. His tent was left under quarantine and our camp was moved some distance and only one other of our company had been exposed. Brainard Rider, who remained and nursed Hall through his sickness. The rainy season had set in and the red clay hills of Mississippi were a perfect bog. There were many of the boys sick with chills and fever, dysentery or the jaundice, and there was not a day passed while we remained at Holly Springs that there was not some poor boy of our regiment buried and it cast a gloom over the whole camp.”

The 33rd Regiment lost a total of 202 men during the Civil War. 3 Officers and 30 enlisted were killed; 2 officers and 167 enlisted – died from disease.

More later on their march to Vicksburg.

Edwin Squires In The Civil War

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Edwin R. Squires was born 15 Dec. 1838 in Caldwell, Warren County, New York, the oldest son of Levi Squires and Sabrina Scofield.  The Squires family moved to Porter, Rock County Wisconsin in 1845 and Levi Squires is noted as an early settler in Rock County Wisconsin history.

To advise my cousins of where they fit in this ancestral heritage. Edwin Squires and Mary Salina Kenyon married 15 December 1858 and had six children. Oldest was Frances Charlotte who was married and remained in Wisconsin when the family moved to Colorado in 1887. Next was Mary Ivadine or “Aunt Ivy” who never married; Harvey Leon; Clarence Delano; Jessie Eugene “Uncle Jesse” who also never married.  The youngest child was Grace Irene Squires who married Robert Sidney Foreman. The Foreman’s had four children – Bernard, Mary Francis, Margaret and Robert James. Mary Francis married Bernard Hancock and they had seven children, Grace Evelyn, Pearl, Charlotte and Charlene (twins), Dorothy, Shirley and Robert. My cousins should know the rest of this part of the story.

These past few days have been recognized as the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg. A major battle, more than 50,000 soldiers killed. A turning point in history for the Union and for the Confederate armies. July 4th is also the 150th anniversary of the end of the siege of Vicksburg. But I’m getting ahead of myself. Let me tell you how Edwin Squires got to Vicksburg.

Edwin Squires was sworn in to  the Union Army on August 15, 1862, in Janesville, Wisconsin.  On the 20th of August they elected the company officers which included Edwin Squires as Third Sergeant. On the 1st of September they were transported to Camp Utley, Racine, Wisconsin on the shore of Lake Michigan, where they were joined by other companies and organized into a regiment of 1,000 men, consisting of 10 companies, and receiving the letter, E Co., 33rd Regiment Wisconsin Volunteers.

They remained at Camp Utley for one month, training in drills and camp duty. On the 2nd of October, 1862, they received orders to pack knapsacks and be ready to march to the depot to board freight cars bound for Cairo, Illinois and then by steamer transport on the White Cloud down the Mississippi to Memphis, Tennessee.

With the help of the book Memorandum and Anecdotes of the Civil War 1862 to 1865,  written by Arthur J. Robinson who served in Company E, 33rd Regiment, Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry I want to give you a snapshot of the experience of these young boys who enlisted to preserve our nation as one.

“On the 20th of November, 1862, we received orders to strike camp and be ready to march by 7 A.M. We were issued ten days’ rations and sixty rounds of cartridges, which meant there was something doing. We were all ready and waiting orders. The boys had loaded themselves down with goods from home and nearly all had supplied themselves with heavy boots and were wearing them instead of the army shoe. Sergeant Cook had been in the regular army and had experience in marching. When he saw the boys were discarding the army shoe, he said with his Irish wit: “Me boys, let me give ye a bit of advice. Throw away thim boots and put on thim army stogies and ye’ll be thankin’ the old man before the day is done.”

We were delayed until 10 A.M., when the order came to march. There were two brigades and a four-gun battery of 12-pound Howitzers, 1st mountain battery, M, and a battalion of cavalry in the command. We marched out on the Hernando road, camping the first night about 20 miles out from Memphis in a cornfield. It was raining when we went into camp and dark. There was a ten-rail fence around the field, and in a very few minutes we had large fires of pine rails throughout the camp.

The boys were busy making coffee in a cup held over the blaze; also frying their bacon on bayonet or ramrod. We had not been in camp but a short time when I was detailed for picket duty and with a squad of 100 from our regiment was marched out a mile south of camp. But quite different were the arrangements to those we had formerly gone through. The sentry was placed stationary every sixty steps and our orders were to watch closely in our front and to call “Halt!” to the least sound, and at second command to shoot, taking no chances from the front of our line. It seemed that we were in close proximity to the enemy by the precautions taken.

My dear readers, you may imagine the thoughts of a boy in his seventeenth year, standing a lonely sentry on a bleak, wet night, with the enemy within a rifle shot of his post, and in fact a skirmish line in the early morning, when we exchanged shots, and the bark chipped from the tree at my ear, which was my only shelter. This was my experience the second day after our leaving Memphis, and the morning of the 21st of November we were in pursuit of a detachment of Forest’s army and drove them into their breast works at Coldwater, where we had the river between us and they in a fortified camp. We had proved our mettle in the fight at Coldwater and won the cheers of our old battle-scarred comrades of our brigade. But we had lost five noble officers. Our first Lieutenant, Henry Swift, was killed in the first volley. Captain Lindsley, of Company H, and three of Company A were also killed, and there were 17 wounded in the regiment.

Chapter 5 of Arthur Robinson’s book which I will post in a few days takes Company E on to Holly Springs where the boys of Company E will see firsthand the inhumanity of war.

Following The Twists And Turns Of Family History Research

My recent post listing ancestors who served our country included an incredible error. For the past few years I have tried to collect information on Gideon Squires, born March 19, 1739 in Woodbury, Connecticut and died in 1820 in Caldwell, Warren County, New York. I know his birth and death records are correct. The Barbour Collection ‘proves’ the birth and his death was listed in Universalist church papers when his widow remarried.

I have read and re-read the information I have on Gideon Squires but the words didn’t sink in to my brain until today when I read an article about the meaning of patriot. I thought Gideon was a patriot in the War for Independence more commonly referred to as the American Revolution, but the research information clearly identifies him as a loyalist. The source for naming Gideon Squires a loyalist is “American Loyalist Claims” by Peter Wilson Coldham. I noticed when I typed the source book title I had spelled loyalist incorrectly. Like a flash of lightening it hit me – patriot and loyalist were two different kinds of Americans. Gideon was not a patriot, but a loyalist. He fought with the British not against the British.

Here is what got me in trouble:

“Gideon was the son of David Squire and Margaret Warner and grandson of Thomas and Hannah (Welton) Squire. He left Woodbury about 1769 and went to Arlington, Vermont. About 1772 he moved from Arlington, Vermont, to Grandville,  Albany County, New York. He is said to have been a lieutenant in the Revolutionary War.

According to “American Loyalist Claims” by Peter Wilson Coldham: Gideon Squire of Grandville, Albany County, New York, joined the army at Skeenesborough and was taken prisoner when in a low state of health. After being in gaol a month at Bennington, returned home, but was forced off farm with wife and five children and obliged to go 150 miles to Woodbury, Connecticut.”
- From the book American Loyalist Claims, Peter Wilson Coldham

Memorial 25 Feb 1786 Arlington< NY
Claim removal expenses and cattle
Evidence Deposition 25 Feb 1786 Arlington by Reuben Green, Zardock Hard, and Elisha Hard of Arlington that claims is just

Rejected (AO13.25.464-465).

Had I continued to do research to match records with the statements made in this paragraph it would have been clear Gideon was not fighting on the side of independence but rather for the British. In addition the information that he was forced off his farm with his wife and five children was clear evidence that he was a loyalist and paid the price for opposing his neighbors by losing his farm and having to move back to Connecticut, probably to seek help from family members or other loyalists to support his family.

To sort all this out will take hours and hours of research. A challenge I love.

There is yet another family member that I have not included as a participant in the War for Independence or American Revolution and that is David Foreman (Fuhrman). I have spent hours at the Denver library reading books and going over lists of names looking for David Fuhrman.

David came to America about the time as the beginning of the war, and several people who have done extensive research on the Foreman family indicate he probably was a Hessian soldier from Germany. The British were a little short of trained troops and so paid German soldiers to come to America and fight. After the war the newly formed American government allowed the Hessian soldiers to stay in America if they did not want to go back to Germany.

Two challenges I have yet to overcome on the research of David is that ‘David’ is not typically a German name. Perhaps he changed it when he decided to stay, if that was the case. The books available listing all of the names of Hessian soldiers that fought for the British lists only a few Furhman’s. The book listing names of soldiers who did elect to stay in America only lists about three Furhman’s, none of them David.

The home town of the Furhman’s that are listed in these books do not match the home town listed by Foreman researcher’s and even the family researchers haven’t agreed on a home town. Four are possibilities Elgerhausen Hessen-Kessel; Kessel Kleve, Nordrhein-Westfalin; Elgerhausen Hesson Kasse. I don’t speak German so my research starts with learning the regions of Germany and how the names came about and the history of the families of the region.

As you can tell, many questions have to be asked, all the answers have to be proven to stay on the right path.